Πέμπτη, 23 Απριλίου 2015

The Greece-"Macedonia" name dispute ( answer to Daniel Serwer)



This article is an answer to the article  The Greece-Macedonia name dispute” written by Daniel Serwer and published in http://www.peacefare.net/?p=22963   
Please read both articles in parallel.

I follow the original article paragraph’s numbering:
 
4. To equalize the use of the name Macedonia for a city to the use for a country, ethnicity, language and citizenship is really silly. The first is not exclusive; the second is exclusive because a country (ethnicity, language, …) owes its name and adjacent adjective. We would have no problem if SlavoSkopians would call Macedonia as many cities as they want. We would have no problem if SlavoSkopians call any region of the country as Macedonia geographically. 

9. I don’t know how someone can distinguish a name of identity from identity itself. Could someone be named Macedonian without being identified to Macedonians? Could SlavoSkopians add an article in the constitution like: “we are not related to ancient Macedonians who have doubtlessly been Greek”?

10. Greece proposed a name like Novomakedonija(n).  New Mexico, not Mexico. EU Maxicanos, not EU Americanos. 

11-12 In contrary, we Greeks are very proud of our identity. That’s why some people could blame us for nationalistic behavior towards SlavoSkopians. This is the reason we do care about our past and protect Macedonian name. This is the reason we cannot allow any non-Greek people to monopolize the name of Macedonia. 

13. SlavoSkopians do know where Macedonia is. They do know that their land is mainly Paeonia. Therefore they cannot convince us that they have no dreams over our land as long as they insist to be named just Macedonians. In short, a Macedonian cannot stop dreaming about Macedonian land. They hide these dreams this far because they don’t want to strengthen Greek quiver. Right after the solution of the problem they will express openly strong conspiracies against Greek sovereignty and against use of Macedonian name by Greeks. All SlavoSkopians I have talked to told me openly that I owe them my land. 

14. The acknowledgement of a “Macedonian” minority in Greece ( or of any “Macedonian”, ie non-Greek, identity) excludes us Greeks of Macedonia from getting identified as Macedonians. This is what I mean by the monopolization of the name of Macedonia above. This is totally rejected by Greeks. In contrary, if SlavoSkopian minority in Greece ask to be called, lets say, Vardarians, Greece would have no problem to recognize it. To be short, I cannot even think of any Macedonian association in Greece that could reject my membership as a non-Macedonian. I am Macedonian, they are not ! For the other minorities, let me remind you that Greece is member of EU and any person is allowed to refer to the European institutions if its rights are violated by Greek state. 

15. That’s why Greek flags are not huge. Only some flags in Greco-Turkish border are huge because Greece is openly threatened by those Ottomans. Genetic heritage is race, not ethnicity. On the other hand, local identities of Greeks (like Macedonian, Cretan … ) are still being strong and this is the reason we oppose to the attempt of monopolization of the name by SlavoSkopians.
16. You got it wrong. Blood and dna are not related to ethnicity, at least within a race. Ethnicity is software while race is hardware. Modern Greeks are Greek because we speak Greek and teach Greek to our children. Language is the main objective confirmation of our continuity form ancient Greeks. There are no pure-blood people on earth. Even ancient Greeks have never been genetically pure. 

18. Language is very important. In fact, if SlavoSkopians speak Greek and teach Greek to their children, we will call them Macedonians and we allow them to govern Greeks the way we do for Greek-Cypriots. Language, not blood, defines identity. Culture is a subset of language’s World. I cannot belong to an ethnic group that I cannot communicate with. I belong to an ethnic group if I want it and they accept me. And if I ask to be member of an ethnic group the first thing I have to do is to speak their language, for obvious reasons. See USA’s incorporation policies. (No Language change is needed for SlavoSkopians to be considered as Bulgarians. Could SlavoSkopians call their language as Bulgarian?)

19.20. hahaha. This confusion is the main reason of conflict. Actually, if SlavoSkopians accept that the name of the country is, lets say, Makedonskata(n) Republica, the end of the conflict would be very close. In contrary to what you say, ALL visitors of Macedonia are confused by SlavoSkopian name. They are looking for Alexander’s birth city or Philip’s tomb and they go to “Macedonia”. Then SlavoSkopians tell them that Alexander’s Macedonia is occupied by Greeks! Further, Macedonian was the Language of Macedonians; this name cannot be the name of a non-Macedonian language.  Do you think that SlavoSkopians could literally say that ancient Macedonians spoke a Greek dialect? 

24. The violation of Inerim Accord by FYROM was and is obvious and ICJ has not decided about it. Because Greece believes that the conflict is political, not legal. NATO (and EU) cannot accept as a member any state that is hostile towards any of its members. This is the definition of “alliance’. Words “Greece made bogus claims that the ICJ had declined to enforce the decision” are lies.

29. FYROM needs to meet the fundamental rules of NATO (EU): friendly relations to members of NATO (EU). 

30. Greece wants FYROM in NATO, but AFTER the solution of the name problem: Slavomacedonia(n). 

36. Any solution could be prepared in any level but, at the end, it must be agreed and signed within UN framework. 

37. Not before SlavoSkopians do a declaration like “we will change the name of country and identity” or “ancient Macedonians have been doubtlessly Greeks”. Greece has done its proposal: North Macedonia. (Personally I prefer Anymacedonia).

40. The recognition of FYROM as RoM at Nov of 2004 by GW Bush (the hajvan) admin right after stealing of Greek-American votes, was really a BIG mistake. If USA wants to help it must reject that recognition and restore the FYROM name. Any push over Greece on this matter is pointless because Greece has done last proposal: North Macedonia. 

Please, get in mind that Greeks cannot allow any non-Greek people to monopolize the name of Macedonia. Therefore no Macedonian state, ethnicity, language, citizenship could exist. This term MUST refer to ancient Macedonians or geographic Macedonians exclusively.  

Istor
Macedonian, therefore Greek